That’s the information I like to hear, good or bad. I realize these are new to market pretty much, and as soon as the bullets arrive, I will be out Bullet trap testing, In various media. I will find someone to help me post some pics when I have some to show. Shots will be fairly close, on a light boned 500 pound critter. Penetration isn’t an issue, looking for maximum tissue disruption on entry and passing thru.