rug1 i don't know about the 17 only what you said they are more
money but i have 22 22mag. i think that would be good to learn on
my 6yrs old grandson is doing that now and loves shooting with
me. any thing to get kids into the sport.
p.s. welcome to the site
larry

tc,s 223 35rem 7-30 waters 6.5jdj 375
30/30ai 6mm/223 22lr
encores 7mm-08 308
redhawk 44mag.