I was able to take a small buck on Nov 1ST right at light with my new custom T/C Carbine Muzzleloader with 16.25 MGM Barrell with a pistol grip. Was a shot of a life time 175 yards free hand held at top of his back 250gr shockwave took him out dropped like a sack never moved again had a couple of buddys who were with me and deer walked out behind us in a field as soon as we got to hunting grounds friends were not ready to shoot had to take the shot. I had been working witrh the gun for a coule of weeks and felt good about the ballistics i was seeing with 100gr of tripple 7 ffg and the 250 shockwave. That shot will be talked about all season around here what a big head i going to have.