I was hunting this year and shot a 7 pointer with 270 with a young spike and a young cowhorn in field. The 7 pointer ran 40 yards and fell over. The other two bucks go over and start whooping up on the 7 pointer after he died. I called my wife to drive down to show deer to my son and she had to beep horn to run them off. Hopefully this year I will get a deer with 7x30 waters contender. Giving up rifles for pistols.