Have both. But consider cold weather shooting/ hunting. Cold fingers have a hard time pulling rimless cases from either gun. Rimmed cases (30-30, 30-40, 444 based) MUCH easier to remove from gun. Been there ,done that! Just purchased 307 win barrel for Encore for that reason. AND can use 308 dies to reload! Have 30-30& 30-30 Ackley for Contender plus 35 Bullberry.Have 260 Rem barrel for Encore also, great caliber, game killer for sure & easy on recoil!