im new on here but i think i have a cool story .i have shot a doe with a 380 auto about 20 yrs ago she walked under my stand from behind me and i couldnt get my rifle turned in a sitting position . then i remembered the 380 that i carried for snakes so out it came and down she went.looking back it wasent a smart move but it got the job done the gun was a lorson one of the cheapest guns you can buy but the deer was 10 ft under me . luck and god was on my side oh and i never used the gun to take a deer again